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In this episode of Navigating Noise, host Erol Yayboke sits down with Chrissy Newton, Founder of VOCAB Communications. They dive into the world of UFOs and UAPs through the lens of data analysis, emotional storytelling, and government transparency.
Chrissy shares how her team approaches real eyewitness accounts, the surprising psychology behind belief in the unexplained, and how the UFO community is becoming a powerful countercultural force for transparency and change.
They also explore how AI, policy, and fringe science are converging and why PR in the UFO space might be the most unforgiving in the world.
⏱️ Timestamps
00:00 – Intro: The many hats of Chrissy Newton
01:20 – Inside Discovery’s Alien Encounters: Fact or Fiction
02:30 – Evidence, psychology, and the Simon Cowell of UFOs
04:36 – How Chrissy applies data analysis to paranormal claims
06:34 – A UFO sighting in Toronto: How she verified it
08:40 – Telling people they’re wrong, without gaslighting them
11:00 – The UFO community as a global counterculture
13:39 – Chrissy’s communications work with Jacques Vallée & The Debrief
15:53 – How to do PR in the most skeptical space on the internet
18:53 – Why transparency is the #1 rule in the UFO world
20:36 – Why the UFO community is so passionate
23:24 – Fringe science, funding, and optimism
27:50 – Where AI meets UFO analysis and government policy
29:55 – Why shaping policy might be Chrissy’s next move
31:06 – The surprising people she meets on planes
35:54 – A Winston Churchill World War II nugget you won’t forget
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