June 4, 2025

Rethinking Demographics, Power, and the Future, with Dr. Jen Sciubba, President & CEO of Population Reference Bureau

The world is changing faster than our assumptions can keep up.

In this episode of Navigating Noise, Erol Yayboke sits down with world-renowned demographer and President of the Population Reference Bureau, Dr. Jennifer Sciubba, to unpack one of the most misunderstood forces shaping our future: population change.

They dive into:

  • Why most U.S. cities are unprepared for depopulation
  • The myths around immigration as a “fix”
  • What demographers can predict with stunning accuracy and what they can’t
  • Why flourishing, not fertility rates, should guide public policy
  • The dangerous consequences of failing to fund and protect global data collection
  • And how narrative bias, not numbers, shapes most of our debates on population

If you care about the future of work, urban planning, national security, education, or climate adaptation… this conversation is for you.

Dr. Sciubba is the author of 8 Billion and Counting: How Sex, Death, and Migration Shape Our World and a former advisor to the Department of Defense and U.S. intelligence community.

Listen in and rethink what the data actually tells us.

To learn more about the Population Reference Bureau and their work, visit: https://www.prb.org

To keep up with Jen, connect on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jensciubba

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